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		<title>Please Help Me Find a New Way To Track Personal Finances!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><img style="border-right: 0px; border-top: 0px; margin: 5px 5px 5px 10px; border-left: 0px; border-bottom: 0px" height="244" alt="windowslivewriterhowdoyoutrackyourenvelopesandfinances 65d0ledger 3 Please Help Me Find a New Way To Track Personal Finances!" src="http://mysuperchargedlife.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/windowslivewriterhowdoyoutrackyourenvelopesandfinances-65d0ledger-3.jpg" width="217" align="right" border="0" title="Please Help Me Find a New Way To Track Personal Finances!" /> Keeping track of your money can be a arduous task.&#160; My wife and I implemented the <a href="http://frugaldad.com/2008/01/31/how-to-implement-an-envelope-budgeting-system/">envelope budgeting system</a> about two years ago to get control of our finances.&#160; At about the same time, we subscribed to <a href="http://www.mvelopes.com">Mvelopes Personal</a> online finance management system.&#160; At first, Mvelopes was fabulous, but through a series of events it seems like it has become harder than necessary.&#160; So, I am interested in alternatives.&#160; I&#8217;m &#8230;</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style="border-right: 0px; border-top: 0px; margin: 5px 5px 5px 10px; border-left: 0px; border-bottom: 0px" height="244" alt="windowslivewriterhowdoyoutrackyourenvelopesandfinances 65d0ledger 3 Please Help Me Find a New Way To Track Personal Finances!" src="http://mysuperchargedlife.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/windowslivewriterhowdoyoutrackyourenvelopesandfinances-65d0ledger-3.jpg" width="217" align="right" border="0" title="Please Help Me Find a New Way To Track Personal Finances!" /> Keeping track of your money can be a arduous task.&nbsp; My wife and I implemented the <a href="http://frugaldad.com/2008/01/31/how-to-implement-an-envelope-budgeting-system/">envelope budgeting system</a> about two years ago to get control of our finances.&nbsp; At about the same time, we subscribed to <a href="http://www.mvelopes.com">Mvelopes Personal</a> online finance management system.&nbsp; At first, Mvelopes was fabulous, but through a series of events it seems like it has become harder than necessary.&nbsp; So, I am interested in alternatives.&nbsp; I&#8217;m trying to determine if there is an easier way or a better system for keeping track of our money.&nbsp; How do you manage your finances?&nbsp; I know that many of you out there are smart about your money and <strong>I really hope you will help me find a better way</strong>.</p>
<h2>How we track our finances now.</h2>
<p>In Mvelopes, we created an envelope for each of our spending categories.&nbsp; We also have a spending plan or budget where we forecast our spending in each envelope.&nbsp; For some of the envelopes, like groceries, eating out, and miscellaneous, my wife withdraws the money from the checking account every two weeks.&nbsp; We then use this cash to pay for purchases in these categories.&nbsp; For some of our expenses, like the mortgage and utilities, the money gets withdrawn directly from our account automatically.&nbsp; We assign each of the transactions from our checking account back to an envelope in Mvelopes.&nbsp; This helps us to plan and know exactly how we are spending our money.</p>
<h2>We use three different types of envelopes.</h2>
<p>We have envelopes that work in a few different ways.&nbsp; <strong>Some of our envelopes get zeroed out every month</strong>.&nbsp; An example of this is the mortgage envelope.&nbsp; We know exactly what our mortgage payment is going to be every month so the exact amount goes in and comes out each month.&nbsp; We never build up or carry a balance in this envelope.&nbsp; The expenses like this are easy to track.</p>
<p><img style="border-right: 0px; border-top: 0px; margin: 5px 15px 5px 5px; border-left: 0px; border-bottom: 0px" height="184" alt="windowslivewriterhowdoyoutrackyourenvelopesandfinances 65d0money envelope 3 Please Help Me Find a New Way To Track Personal Finances!" src="http://mysuperchargedlife.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/windowslivewriterhowdoyoutrackyourenvelopesandfinances-65d0money-envelope-3.jpg" width="244" align="left" border="0" title="Please Help Me Find a New Way To Track Personal Finances!" /> However, <strong>other envelopes do carry a balance</strong>.&nbsp; For instance, the envelope we use for auto fuel is funded a certain amount every month, but the amount we spend for fuel varies.&nbsp; Also, we don&#8217;t withdraw this money from our checking account because we pay for gas with our debit card.&nbsp; So, we need to be able to keep track of what we spend and the balance in these types of envelopes from month-to-month.&nbsp; The balance in these envelopes needs to carry forward to the next month automatically without our intervention.</p>
<p><strong>The final type of envelope is not really used to track expenses at all, but rather to keep track of savings</strong>.&nbsp; An example of this is our emergency fund.&nbsp; We just became debt-free except for our mortgage a few months ago so, we are now building up our emergency fund.&nbsp; We set up an envelope for this and each month according to our spending plan, we deposit the appropriate sum of money in this envelope.</p>
<h2>Where the problems arise with tracking our envelopes.</h2>
<p>As I said earlier, everything seemed to flow smoothly for us initially.&nbsp; Mvelopes would automatically download our transactions from our checking account at the credit union.&nbsp; When we logged in, it would notify us that we had new transactions and request that we assign them to the appropriate envelopes.&nbsp; However, after our credit union did an upgrade to their system, <strong>Mvelopes was no longer able to automatically download new transactions for us.&nbsp; This means that we now have to manually enter the transactions which causes us to get behind</strong>.</p>
<p>The other problem with Mvelopes that we can&#8217;t figure out is that sometimes an envelope gets out of whack and there doesn&#8217;t seem to be a way to make a simple adjustment.&nbsp; We have had a few situations where we just wanted to zero out an envelope or we wanted to enter an adjustment because we knew the balance in the envelope was wrong.&nbsp; Well, the software doesn&#8217;t seem to let you do that.&nbsp; If a balance exists in an envelope, it forces you to transfer that balance somewhere.&nbsp; <strong>You can&#8217;t just enter an adjustment that changes the balance in an envelope without it affecting something else</strong>.&nbsp; I understand the reasoning behind this, but it doesn&#8217;t really work with real life and it annoys me.</p>
<h2>What I like about our present system.</h2>
<p>One of the things that I like about Mvelopes is the way it allows me to create my spending plan and then use that to fund my envelopes on a regular basis.&nbsp; I also like that it is an online system which means that I don&#8217;t have to worry about backups.&nbsp; Mvelopes is also fairly easy to use.&nbsp; You don&#8217;t have to be a computer genius to figure it out.&nbsp; They have online help and tutorials that answer most of the questions that have arisen.&nbsp; </p>
<h2>What I want in a finance tracking system.</h2>
<p>Since I&#8217;m asking for ideas, it only makes sense that I tell you what I want the system to do.&nbsp; Here are some of my thoughts:</p>
<h3>1.&nbsp; It should support the envelope system of budgeting.</h3>
<p>Overall, I like using the envelope system of <a href="http://mysuperchargedlife.com/blog/financial-freedom-ebook/" >budgeting</a> so, whatever I move to has to support this approach.&nbsp; This is why we chose Mvelopes in the first place.&nbsp; It is built solely around this methodology.&nbsp; I&#8217;d like a system that either recognizes the concept of envelopes or at least can be configured to emulate the behavior.&nbsp; If the system isn&#8217;t designed around the use of envelopes, then I&#8217;d like to see or be told how someone else set it up.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t want to have to recreate the wheel to get it to do what I want.</p>
<h3>2.&nbsp; I want a software-based system.</h3>
<p>I suddenly realized that I might be assuming that everyone thinks like I do and likes software.&nbsp; This is probably not the case.&nbsp; I&#8217;m sure there are some out there that still like to do things by hand.&nbsp; I am not one of those.&nbsp; The system I choose will have to be software-based.</p>
<h3>3.&nbsp; It needs to have a way to automate the loading of transactions.</h3>
<p>I think that if Mvelopes still automatically downloaded our transactions or supported a methodology where we could easily upload our transactions instead of having to manually key them, then I probably wouldn&#8217;t be looking for an alternative system.&nbsp; I&#8217;m not picky about how the system handles this as long as it is easy and eliminates the manual entry.</p>
<h3>4.&nbsp; I need to be in control.</h3>
<p>I want to be able to enter an adjustment in one envelope without it affecting any other envelope or account.&nbsp; I want more flexibility than I have now within Mvelopes so that my financial management system can adapt to real life.&nbsp; Unfortunately, things in the real-world get kind of messy and complicated at times.&nbsp; The system needs to give me the control I need to handle the unusual circumstance.</p>
<h3>5.&nbsp; It needs to be easy.</h3>
<p>A system that requires a doctorate in computer science to operate will not work.&nbsp; I believe that one of the keys to financial success is consistency.&nbsp; It is impossible to consistently manage your money with a system that is difficult to use.&nbsp; By nature, we humans avoid things that are painful or difficult.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t want to dread using the system.</p>
<h3>6.&nbsp; Some decent reports would be nice.</h3>
<p>I don&#8217;t use a lot of reports, but a few decent ones would be nice.&nbsp; It is great to be able to print out a copy of the budget or the balance in each or our envelopes.&nbsp; Occasionally, we like to print a register of transactions by envelope for a specific date range to analyze a situation.&nbsp; Other than that, we don&#8217;t typically get too fancy with reporting.</p>
<h2>Please let me know ideas on a new system.</h2>
<p>I hope this is enough information to give you an idea of what I&#8217;m looking for in an alternative to Mvelopes.&nbsp; I am very interested in how others are doing this.&nbsp; I sincerely hope to find something that is easier for my wife and I to use and that takes less of our time.&nbsp; Once I come up with a new system, I will post an article letting everyone know how it works for us.&nbsp; Hopefully, there are others out there that can benefit from what I learn.</p>
<p><strong>Please feel free to let me know your suggestions by leaving a comment below or you can email me at jeff(at)mysuperchargedlife.com.&nbsp; Thanks!</strong></p>
<p><em>Photos by </em><a title="Gunnar Wrobel" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrobel/300002369/"><em>Gunnar Wrobel</em></a><em> and </em><a title="David Boyle" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/beglen/157929769/"><em>David Boyle</em></a></p>
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